tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post4568714979198005892..comments2023-04-19T20:14:22.052+01:00Comments on Find 815: Theory from TEAM GAME BrazilDarkUFOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08464721245509617190noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-42669615826392130712008-01-12T16:53:00.000+00:002008-01-12T16:53:00.000+00:00touching back on this old dated article now with a...touching back on this old dated article now with a last response to ellen - good point lol, yeah the helicopter likely didn't take off from another island. :)Preachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576122695701904014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-66724527719770914732008-01-11T02:25:00.000+00:002008-01-11T02:25:00.000+00:00I'll repeat: This boat will sink... And they will ...I'll repeat: This boat will sink... And they will be rescued by Naomi's boat... <BR/>The problem is: Sam must stay in the island... <BR/>Or how could Jack not know about the island location years later... <BR/>What u think !!!<BR/><BR/>The MisterymachineUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13250177143058179914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-41421657477702022722008-01-11T02:20:00.000+00:002008-01-11T02:20:00.000+00:00I think the Oceanic crib mobile in the nursery sho...I think the Oceanic crib mobile in the nursery shows a tight connection between the airline and the finincial consortium of Paik/Widmore/Talbot. So the fake discovery can be made and maybe even exposed within the ARG. It has to be exposed at some point because Jack is back at work.10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-8843261308722690662008-01-11T00:07:00.000+00:002008-01-11T00:07:00.000+00:00Nice try by Team Brazil, but there are so many thi...Nice try by Team Brazil, but there are so many things wrong with their theory and so much extrapolation, I don't buy it at all.<BR/><BR/>I think Preach is right: they are going to the Sunda trench. the sunda trench is not far from Bali, where Naomi said they'd found the wreckage. <BR/><BR/>There is also the idea that the Christiane I is definitely not the freighter that is expected in Season 4.<BR/><BR/>While I would love to see Sam intervene for real in the series, my theory is: Sam, by joining the Christiane I, has inadvertently joined the team that will "discover" the wreckage of flight 815 off the coast of Bali (which Cooper and Naomi refer to). I think this "discovery" would tie in nicely with what we're supposed to learn in season 4...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13199462632208056885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-70387437500050313222008-01-10T23:10:00.000+00:002008-01-10T23:10:00.000+00:00By the way, I allways thought Amelia Ehrhard would...By the way, I allways thought Amelia Ehrhard would be important, since someone mentioned her :)<BR/><BR/>I think Widmore is in contact with the Freighter, for other reasons than Desmon, but, it's a nice side-bonus for him (I don't know how to put it in english) that Penny and Desmond may not come together :)annebethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04268957686050742266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-22894580536987056332008-01-10T21:01:00.000+00:002008-01-10T21:01:00.000+00:00i have to agree with Preach, i think people are ov...i have to agree with Preach, i think people are over exagerating things alot by clutching at so many straws. i think the one thing that we are dead on so far is amelia earheart. everything is just theory in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-68393818756185819672008-01-10T20:50:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:50:00.000+00:00Preach--I agree with most of what you are saying, ...Preach--<BR/>I agree with most of what you are saying, but my point was, our island is indeed probably invisible, and what Naomi said indicated, at least to me, that there were NO other land masses even close by. So how could she have taken off in the helicopter from another island as you said?<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm not understanding you?<BR/><BR/><BR/>xxooEllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14386026307076452603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-32409114473052346162008-01-10T20:33:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:33:00.000+00:00i also want to say that i think some of the theori...i also want to say that i think some of the theorizing is dragging it a bit far. remember that this is an ensemble cast. i doubt the producers are so, yes i'll say it, stupid as to have the main storyline revolve around a man's love for another man's daughter, with complications. desmond and penny can't end up being main characters, and if this whole finding the island thing is because mr. widmore wants to silence desmond or something, the show would change from being a show about seemingly something big, to being a sappy story of love and jealousy. i personally don't think the freighter people have anything to do with charles widmore in a direct sense.Preachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576122695701904014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-14409855043947757302008-01-10T20:32:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:32:00.000+00:00I do enjoy the idea that Widmore is behind more of...I do enjoy the idea that Widmore is behind more of this than people may have thought beforehand. However, like others have mentioned, the size of the boat seems to be a problem. My larger problem with the idea of the Christiane I being Naomi's boat is that I went back and watched the end of the season 3 finale and listened to the man talking to Jack on the radio and his voice is definitely American, not like any of the voices we have heard so far of people on the boat. It is definitely possible that there are Americans on board that we haven't met yet, but until we see them I'd say that the Christiane I is not the boat that Jack talks to.Austin Siadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320656644013404196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-9121123562512716182008-01-10T20:30:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:30:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Austin Siadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320656644013404196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-42428006781281999892008-01-10T20:28:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:28:00.000+00:00They aren't going to the island. They are going to...They aren't going to the island. They are going to the Sunda Trench to find the wreckage of Flight 815 that was mentioned by Naomi. Strange this is that this is supposedly taking place in 2006 while Naomi and Cooper claimed wreckage had already been found on island less then 100 days after the crash in 2004. I think this proves that time on the island moves slower then the rest of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-70590700048664909912008-01-10T20:27:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:27:00.000+00:00quick response to ellen, maybe it doesnt even matt...quick response to ellen, maybe it doesnt even matter but i wanted to further on what she said..<BR/><BR/>naomi did say they got coordinates in the middle of the, "bloody" ocean ;) anyway, that doesn't really have to mean anything. in interpreting what that really means, consider this: if you look back in the find815 archive on this site, dark (or someone else) presented what they thought was the place flight 815 crashed. it was a bit north of fiji. if looking on a world map, even a very descriptive one, if the island really is invisible like we think, it wouldn't be on a map, and thus the coordinates would be in the middle of the ocean. if fiji is a few hundred sea miles from our island, our island would indeed seem to have its coordinates in "the middle of the bloody ocean" :)Preachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576122695701904014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-25391519804946688752008-01-10T20:25:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:25:00.000+00:00Gosh! Brazilians can made up good stuff! Nice theo...Gosh! Brazilians can made up good stuff! Nice theory! Keep working on it ;)Fefu!https://www.blogger.com/profile/16649128938036072186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-20817918955529399302008-01-10T20:23:00.000+00:002008-01-10T20:23:00.000+00:00my point is, Christiane I ain't Naomi's boat.i do ...my point is, Christiane I ain't Naomi's boat.<BR/><BR/>i do agree that there is a BIG FAT chance that Widmore is in charge of the freighter, but not to keep Penny away from Des.... He's got other interests on that island....Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15558872638012074975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-65475739823009493472008-01-10T18:59:00.000+00:002008-01-10T18:59:00.000+00:00The tecnical matter of the boat size, in my opinio...The tecnical matter of the boat size, in my opinion doesn´t matter. `Cos in the Brazilian Theory there is the possibility to have more than one boat.And we are only gamers, not navy enginiers.And we can´t forget that could be smallers islands,´cos still remains thousands of possibilities about the localization and how many islands!!!!<BR/>And one more thing: Mr. Widmore are traying to uncover all the plot that he´s in. His enterprise and the Hanso foudantion are dangerous closer as we all know . It´s not only a "put Penny away", he is guilt for the experiments as Hanso Foundantion, so it´s clear to me that he wants to cover up all history.Fabio Navarrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12440455511665199792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-16145553414460673132008-01-10T18:26:00.000+00:002008-01-10T18:26:00.000+00:00lovely theory...as for the size of the Christiane ...lovely theory...as for the size of the Christiane I, maybe they have some kind of crisis and are picked up by the larger fieghter? Or Talbot rendezvous with the fieghter in a preplanned way?tvwatcherinvthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04999289651075728665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-52992416449594097312008-01-10T18:17:00.000+00:002008-01-10T18:17:00.000+00:00that's a looooot of work to go through just to kee...that's a looooot of work to go through just to keep your daughter from being with some guy--- and a normal drunk scotsman at that.NicoleMM05https://www.blogger.com/profile/09220279900062675865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-54675578909582047872008-01-10T18:15:00.000+00:002008-01-10T18:15:00.000+00:00The Brazil team seems to know everything that's ha...The Brazil team seems to know everything that's happening. Hmm....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16447103481091398995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-55582646269137963862008-01-10T18:01:00.000+00:002008-01-10T18:01:00.000+00:00agh yes i was wrong, thanks Coringa for pointing i...agh yes i was wrong, thanks Coringa for pointing it out. <BR/><BR/>though now i see it is a really good theory, i still dont belive it to be true. <BR/>Christiane I is too small to hold two helicopters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-69767583028935071852008-01-10T17:43:00.000+00:002008-01-10T17:43:00.000+00:00I've been also thinking for six months that the pe...I've been also thinking for six months that the people on the freighter are actually the workers of Mr. Widmore, and Mr. Widmore wants to reach to Desmond on the island, to take him away from there. And as I've heard from a friend of mine that works on the set of LOST, and have seen the episodes of season 4, he says that Desmond has a connection with his family, his great great family through Mr. Widmore. That's another reason why Mr. Widmore doesn't want Desmond to be found.<BR/><BR/>And the actual thought of Mr. Widmore has lots of thing to do with the island has been in my mind for nearly a year. But let's wait and see... :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11499172883399107822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-66913884672649194472008-01-10T17:37:00.000+00:002008-01-10T17:37:00.000+00:00That's a good point, fedegaray. As I haven't parti...That's a good point, fedegaray. As I haven't participated in the LE1, that ended up out of the theory.<BR/><BR/>And for those who think that the boat might be too small to fit a chopper, remember when Sayid asks Desmond if they had seen her chopper falling down? Not sure about the one you said we can see on S4 preview cause I'm avoiding too see anything, no spoilers this season, so, it still makes sense to me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517554761630157220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-83708293276549651252008-01-10T16:53:00.001+00:002008-01-10T16:53:00.001+00:00Great theory TEAM BRAZIL. I wana add or change som...Great theory TEAM BRAZIL. I wana add or change something to fit your theory with mine. I think that Charles Widmore has to be more motivated to find the island that the Desmond issue. Remember The Lost Experience, where we learned that he and his companie are very involucrated with the Hanso Foundation's experiments. When Hanso (and his Dharma Initiative) loose the island by the purge, Widmore loose a lot of money and resourses that he putted in the island researchs. So, as he is part of the Dharma inversionists he its collaborating with the rescue of the island. <BR/><BR/>I m agree that the Christiane I may be the Naomi's boat, but if its not, there must be a big float behind them.<BR/><BR/>Ah, and i got another theory about Widmore: Widmore it was behind the donation of the Elizabeth from Libby to Desmond. I m very sure that Libby it was connected to Widmore. Thats why Lindelof say he wana tell us something more of her.<BR/><BR/>(by the way, I am from Argentina, so... lets make a Southamerican Center of Theories)H V Eeghenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944958072662492887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-44113593145509464512008-01-10T16:53:00.000+00:002008-01-10T16:53:00.000+00:00@me: don't forget Owen's on the boat! ;)he was the...@me: don't forget Owen's on the boat! ;)<BR/>he was the one Ockham called out for, but Oscar came instead.<BR/>Just noticed: a bunch of O-named people on that boat! lolWeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07172669716589519058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-87554134398540794002008-01-10T16:43:00.000+00:002008-01-10T16:43:00.000+00:00Preach- don't know if Naomi was lying or not, but ...Preach- don't know if Naomi was lying or not, but didn't she say that they were given coordinates "in the middle of the bloody ocean"? So, if she's being truthful about that, there wouldn't be any islands nearby...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>xxooEllenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14386026307076452603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-50815219486490164732008-01-10T16:35:00.000+00:002008-01-10T16:35:00.000+00:00in fact, i'm just gonna type up what i think. by t...in fact, i'm just gonna type up what i think. by the time i check back and someone replies i might forget some of what i was gonna say lol. just keep in mind, i touch on a couple of spoilers in the following text, so if you don't want to be spoiled, scroll past it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>---- season 4 spoilers ahead ----<BR/>---- season 4 spoilers ahead ----<BR/>---- season 4 spoilers ahead ----<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>first of all, i want to say that all the theorizing in this "article" imo doesn't lend any credibility to the fact that the christiane I is naomi's freighter. they could have posted just the "bottom line" and the theory would stand just as strong imo.<BR/><BR/>i think we'll find out soon enough if it's the freighter, through playing the game. sam gives us updates on what's going on in the videos. the sunda trench is nowhere near where people think the island is (closer to fiji). in the second episode of season four there will be scenes in fiji, and we know that there was a similar looking freighter docked there. we also know the episode is freighter people-centric. so obviously, if the christiane I suddenly changes its course to eastbound, or specifically leaves for fiji, i guess we'll have our answer. maybe they change ships there, and carry on with a larger freighter. or maybe the "island" is so close to another known island that the helicopter didn't take off from a boat.<BR/><BR/>as for the speculation on penny and her father, to me it sounds a little bit too weird. they're family and all. he could just disown her lol. end of the questions. why play such a game with your own daughter? then again, this is lost, so i wouldn't be surprised. all in all, i guess it's a good theory.Preachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576122695701904014noreply@blogger.com