tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post902362342430711950..comments2023-04-19T20:14:22.052+01:00Comments on Find 815: 815 is near Sunda Trench: Which is BALIDarkUFOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08464721245509617190noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-84111111405291870072008-01-12T23:41:00.000+00:002008-01-12T23:41:00.000+00:00The more I'm reminded of that line the more I thin...The more I'm reminded of that line the more I think it was there for a reason. It would certainly solve the problem of the distance between a near-Fiji location for the island and the wreck being discovered in the Sunda Trench. If the Christiane I is looking for the Black Rock in the Sunda Trench region, then that must be where the island is. The fuselage could roll right down the trench. This way, Jack and Kate can be lifted off the island and turn up as survivors of 815 in Indonesia.10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-90705838656221696932008-01-12T19:31:00.000+00:002008-01-12T19:31:00.000+00:00Jack: "At the rate this beach is eroding, the fuse...Jack: "At the rate this beach is eroding, the fuselage is going to be underwater in a matter of days!<BR/><BR/>Doesn't anybody think it's possible Sam and co will discover the actual wreckage that the Island washed away?<BR/><BR/>ps: Jake, sorry about the bumbler!Wu Li Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198597016335627840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-79228103012795294842008-01-12T01:39:00.000+00:002008-01-12T01:39:00.000+00:00Say the discovery of 815 is faked in the Sunda Tre...Say the discovery of 815 is faked in the Sunda Trench to take attention away from the Fiji area. It's close enough to Indonesia that a few survivors could turn up. The people who take Jack and Kate off the island – to Indonesia – could make a deal with them to go along with that story. And they could be taken away under cover so they don't know where the island is.10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-26623352978181318222008-01-12T01:26:00.000+00:002008-01-12T01:26:00.000+00:00Wu li master:"If there's more to Oceanic, somethin...Wu li master:<BR/>"If there's more to Oceanic, something sinister, then perhaps they might fabricate a situation that would benefit them."<BR/><BR/>That's the only explanation wich makes sense for me considering that Naomi and Cooper are telling the "truth".. I don't believe that they are dead or are in some kind of parallel universe...<BR/><BR/>BUT, there is something strange in the relation of those facts.. and about Jack and Kate in the future? Would not they tell everybody that were 815's survivors?Bruno Césarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11855591723235306647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-47182330102119502442008-01-11T22:03:00.000+00:002008-01-11T22:03:00.000+00:00Those were cartoon injuries, considering there was...Those were cartoon injuries, considering there was nothing left but a crater.10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-11734777458624624212008-01-11T20:59:00.000+00:002008-01-11T20:59:00.000+00:00Well... Charlie was deaf, John was mute, and Eko w...Well... Charlie was deaf, John was mute, and Eko was hurt...Миљан Давид Танићhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658152967857418807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-24362704259987560842008-01-11T20:54:00.000+00:002008-01-11T20:54:00.000+00:00The whispers always make me want to think the Lost...The whispers always make me want to think the Losties are asleep like in The Matrix, which LOST has often nodded to. We can't ignore the major gaps in the flow of normal reality – like when Charlie, John and Eko turn up intact after the demolition of the Swan. Reboot?10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-4649886283811380172008-01-11T20:30:00.000+00:002008-01-11T20:30:00.000+00:00Don't you oy me... it still hurts not to be with t...Don't you oy me... it still hurts not to be with that bumbler (lol).<BR/><BR/>Hm... how explain? Well, LOST TIME :D Time-wrap, something... I'm a big fan of space-time continuum stories... and besides, in the clip show prior to the S3 finale, Darlton said that the Losties are alive, "somewhere in the Space-time continuum"... it could mean they're just on a regular island with big EM-interference so it can't be seen, OR... they're in some other dimension or something... :DМиљан Давид Танићhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658152967857418807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-9905121399227561972008-01-11T20:15:00.000+00:002008-01-11T20:15:00.000+00:00jake, I'm assuming both Naomi and Cooper are BOTH ...jake, I'm assuming both Naomi and Cooper are BOTH telling the TRUTH. "But lets say everyone is telling the truth and the wreckage HAS been found.." is the beginning of my 3rd paragraph. It's more complicated to assume they're lying.<BR/><BR/>oy?Wu Li Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198597016335627840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-62515629499871536432008-01-11T18:35:00.000+00:002008-01-11T18:35:00.000+00:00Naomi and Cooper both heard news broadcasts that 8...Naomi and Cooper both heard news broadcasts that 815 had been found, so that places Sam's search in a time frame previous to the end of S3. It makes sense that the ARG would fill in gaps without advancing the story beyond the last cliff-hanger. I think the emails Sam received directing him to the Sunda Trench were planted by the financiers who control the island and Oceanic Airlines. Maybe if only a few Losties leave the island, they'll have some story about surviving the wreck, since the trench is quite close to Indonesia.10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-47236894106614777832008-01-11T18:17:00.000+00:002008-01-11T18:17:00.000+00:00How do you mean what about him? If Naomi was lying...How do you mean what about him? If Naomi was lying about the plane having been found... why did Cooper lie to? How on earth did he have the same info as she did when they didn't know each other?Миљан Давид Танићhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658152967857418807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-55437032835345845422008-01-11T15:41:00.000+00:002008-01-11T15:41:00.000+00:00what about him?what about him?Wu Li Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198597016335627840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-14820451324151176832008-01-11T15:12:00.000+00:002008-01-11T15:12:00.000+00:00And again... what about Cooper?And again... what about Cooper?Миљан Давид Танићhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658152967857418807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-64294221306756459222008-01-11T14:32:00.000+00:002008-01-11T14:32:00.000+00:00Naomi could be lying of course, but to what end? s...Naomi could be lying of course, but to what end? she could be telling the truth, in which case Oceanic could be lying, but to what end?<BR/><BR/>If they're just a commercial airline company I don't think it would make any difference whether or not the wreckage was found, from a 'damage limitation' point of view. If there's more to Oceanic, something sinister, then perhaps they might fabricate a situation that would benefit them.<BR/><BR/>But lets say everyone is telling the truth and the wreckage HAS been found (following the conclusion of this game and before the end of season 3) - then how can we explain this, given the plane crashed on the island?<BR/><BR/>well, didn't the islanders mention the fact that unusual tidal activity was washing most of the original beach camp into the ocean - including the fuselage with the bodies (Whatever the Case May Be - Jack: "At the rate this beach is eroding the fuselage is going to be underwater in a matter of days!"). Maybe the ISLAND washed it out to sea to be found. 'But the bodies were burnt!' I hear you say. 'Will investigators believe they burned under water?' It could be explained by a midair ignition of the plane's fuel, becoming a fireball before ocean impact. An investigating team having found this fuselage could easily conclude that there were no survivors.<BR/><BR/>I know I'm labouring the point, but it's a logical explanation rather than resorting to the fantastical. The only paranormal part is the Islands involvement. But surely no-one on this site doubts the sentient nature of the Island or those who hide there and control it (Jacob and the Whispers?).Wu Li Masterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198597016335627840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-19053810445047287762008-01-11T13:47:00.000+00:002008-01-11T13:47:00.000+00:00Time on the island passes slower relative to the r...Time on the island passes slower relative to the rest of the world. I think this game is making that quite obvious. This story is taking place in 2007/2008 and Naomi arrived on the island in 2004 (Losties time line).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-19928041419579878652008-01-11T09:04:00.000+00:002008-01-11T09:04:00.000+00:00@bruno: Again, if Naomi was lying, what about Coop...@bruno: Again, if Naomi was lying, what about Cooper? They don't know each other, but they said the same thing... huh?Миљан Давид Танићhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14658152967857418807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-19060366573921331402008-01-11T06:15:00.000+00:002008-01-11T06:15:00.000+00:00I'm still very confused about when Sam's story is ...I'm still very confused about when Sam's story is happening... In his first video, he says Oceanic Flight 815 crashed in September, 22nd, but hides the year... Then on the Oceanic website, the press release is from 2007... So we should assume Sam is on Cristiane I in 2008, and Oceanic gave up searching for 815 in 2007... But the plane fell on 2004!!!! What is really going on with the timeline here, people???Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683846834763407534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-80251624059555279262008-01-11T03:39:00.000+00:002008-01-11T03:39:00.000+00:00but Naomi is a liar...we can't trust her.. she sai...but Naomi is a liar...<BR/>we can't trust her.. she said that the boat was penny's.. therefore, I don't believe in her story about the 815 body..Bruno Césarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11855591723235306647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-51248344942275147662008-01-11T03:32:00.000+00:002008-01-11T03:32:00.000+00:00Don't you think the Oceanic crib mobile in the nur...Don't you think the Oceanic crib mobile in the nursery shows that the airline is in bed with the consortium that finances the island?10in10Diet.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530875231162335190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-85024145308185855322008-01-11T02:50:00.000+00:002008-01-11T02:50:00.000+00:00From a realworld standpoint the last thing Oceanic...From a realworld standpoint the last thing Oceanic would ever do is "fake" wreckage. Modern aircraft being what they are someday something could and would wash ashore so it would not be a matter of if they got caught but when. I would be more inclined to believe the Others would fake the wreckage to keep a search away from the island, they are the ones who know where the actual wreckage is and would benefit from a fake being discovered.feddawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13704271800850767405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-17125608287558302552008-01-11T02:38:00.001+00:002008-01-11T02:38:00.001+00:00Whoever Naomi is with they did not expect to find ...Whoever Naomi is with they did not expect to find survivors of 815. She makes the comment to Hurley as she wakes up after recovering from Patchy's first aid. I believe that makes the freighter that is at the island unrelated to the group Sam is with. Along with this is the guy in the preview saying that "saving you is not our primary objective." So my take is there are multiple groups looking for the island with multiple motives. <BR/><BR/>Also the revelation that the Black Rock was loaded with gold to pay for slaves in Africa expains how the others are able to finance some of the accomodations in "Otherville."feddawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13704271800850767405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-41310656989654376842008-01-11T02:38:00.000+00:002008-01-11T02:38:00.000+00:00Talbot could be part of the Others' network or who...Talbot could be part of the Others' network or whoever else might have faked the wreckage. His job is to make sure the fake gets found and reported. In that case Sam's e-mails would be coming from the Others/bad guys/whoever faked the wreckage. What better spokesman than a publicly distraught grieving lover to convince people the wreckage is real?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I agree, but there's something missing here... Sam finds the fake wreckage, believes it, the search for the flight 815 stops, Oceanic is flying again. But then, Jack and some other people leave the island, showing the world there WERE survivors of 815. Oceanic would lose credibility. They wouldn't give Jack a 'gold pass', and be working again very successfully. Even if they were not connected to the fact, I don't think anyone would believe it.<BR/><BR/>What could Oceanic do to make up for creating a fake wreckage? I dunno. And the game's not gonna last that long so we could find it out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335456406071043250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-63609988934313595382008-01-11T02:19:00.000+00:002008-01-11T02:19:00.000+00:00Allowing that what is true in Rachel Blake's unive...Allowing that what is true in Rachel Blake's universe is true in Sam's/the show's: <BR/><BR/>Do we think Hanso is now back in charge of the foundation or Mittelwerk? how motivated are either of these people to cover up Flight 815? <BR/><BR/>Again allowing the first thing remember that we already know quite alot about the black rock.<BR/><BR/>I do think that the the purpose of Sam's story is to let us know that that Naomi's story is false and she knows/knew (is she dead or alive) it is false. Cooper's story concurs because he has 'bought' the cover up..we wont know who Naomi is or who did the cover up yet (not Oceanic because of what i said before).<BR/><BR/>Where does that leave us with time? Sam's story doesn't feel like it's happening in the past to me, so if Naomi is referring to "the cover up" rather the straight up lying, then time moves more slowly on the Island...Or i'm wrong as alot of people feel, about when Sam's story is happening.Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287906994440572015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-66211369430906539252008-01-11T01:54:00.001+00:002008-01-11T01:54:00.001+00:00People seem to think that Oceanic would have to pu...People seem to think that Oceanic would have to pull the cover up. But realized they couldn't due to the fact that they go back into business. It could be one of the companies introduced in the last ARG. They all have the money and power to pull a cover up like that and would have interests in keeping the island secret...Thomasriekkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00313740001161518250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2944716441661470310.post-13514872435388734672008-01-11T01:54:00.000+00:002008-01-11T01:54:00.000+00:00Do we have any evidence about who owns Oceanic?Do we have any evidence about who owns Oceanic?Twinklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04952083409840256899noreply@blogger.com