Feb 2, 2008

Code in the Talbot Interview

Update: 02/02/08 From comments posted by a number of members
It seems like this is nothing more than a a digitial watermark

Thanks to taiphun who e-mailed us about the mp3 audio Talbot Interview

I was on chat and noticed that Gigora
found that the audio file (mp3) that comes from the UCLA radio website
has properties that contain hexadecimal numbers in the Comments
section. This is highly unusual, so it was of great interest to me
when I found my copy of the mp3 and cried purging tears of joy!

The conversion of these hex numbers to binary are as follows:

00000062 01100010
00000073 01110011
00002140 0010000101000000
00001429 0001010000101001
000000B6 10110110
000138F5 00010011100011110101
00007DB1 0111110110110001
00006151 0110000101010001
000000D0 11010000
000138DB 00010011100011011011

The binary, when converted to ascii translates to this:


This doesn't make a whole lot of sense for now, but I think we are
taking steps in the right direction to figuring if this means
anything... perhaps a lead into TMG's website?


censor said...

Anyone tried the file in openstego?

Gavin Jones KY said...

Spook, I got this when I decoded from hex to binanary to text:


Maybe the difference between translators? I don't know.

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Donnie said...

I am afraid it's a not really clue. This

0000012C 0000012E 00003B37 00006179 0000059C 00000582 00007047 00007E28 000B4914 000B4914

was in the Desription for an mp3 podcast from the same site. It's probably a digitial watermark or something

Pandoras said...

If you take an ASCII table, 00001429 for example is "DC4 )". DC4 stands for Device control 4, no symbol is associated with this code. So somehting is missing in your translation, I think there is another way to use that. By the way, nice find !!!

Gigora said...

I'd just like to say that I personally didn't find this "comment code" it came up in chat the previous night but I can't remember who found it. Anyway I also believe it's nothing. Like Donnie said^^

- Gigora

Donnie said...

Here's what I did if you want to check it out for yourself. Go here


and download the sports podcast. The same type numbers are in encoded in that mp3 as well.

Meanwhile. Check out the summary for the 815 podcast(the Talbot interview):

'UCLAradio.com points out that the character and story of Oscar Talbot are, in fact, fictional (very mysterious..), but by continuing your search you can still discover more about Flight 815..'

jomer s. himpson said...

are you sure it's not just replaygain information?

taiphun said...

this may very well be nothing, just as it was said in chat. but ten sets of numbers works out to ten letters. Gavin Jones KY has way too many letters on his decode.

remember, how many times have people said something was nothing (stego) and it actually NOT be nothing?

Beverly said...

10 sets of single-byte numbers are 10 characters (unless you are using a mutlibyte caharacter set or unicode) 10 sets of 4-byte numbers gives you something else. It could be 40 characters (one character per byte, but the zeroes are NULLs so they are not meaningful if it's ASCII). But tt may not be ASCII. It could be something else.

Candice said...

When I download and view the tags, the comment field is blank in both ID3v1 and ID3v2. But I *do* see that the producer was Michael Moskowitz and the BPM is 120 :) Both meaningless.

The file hasn't changed, has it?

James D said...

Its nothing. I don't know if you were using itunes, but I know that Itunes will do that to its music. I used to be psychotic about keeping my music organized, and that was one of the things that infuriated me about iTunes. I didn't want any comment info in any of my music, but Itunes kept putting codes just like that into random songs. Sorry.

Candice said...

I was imagining it was something like that. I don't use iTunes, and I won't use and iPod for reasons just like it.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunely this isnt a clue at all. Its just a Serial watermark number which most MP3's have these days.

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Anonymous said...

On the page with the Talbot interview, there is a picture of a man underwater. That picture comes from a Canadian space site. Was this picture just randomly used? Or is there something else to it? (Probably not)

maria_bisbalera said...

Hi, everyone.

I too think that the numbers are just a watermark.
But when I saw the name Michael Moskowitz i had begun find it in google (and though then i found that it is the person of ABC (really I have never heard about him, I'm not the specialist)
and the first site that i found was the site about neurosurgery. And we all know that Jack is spinal neurosurgeon. Just coincidence, but funny, that one can find anything where is nothing really. Who knows?

And the other Michael Moskowitz (i don't know how much are they) is the president of canadian satelite holding, and the picture from site with interview with Talbot is from canadian too. Well, another coincidence...?

John said...

anyone know morse code? I've been running the binary through a translator all day and trying to teach my self morse code at the same time.

It may go nowhere like you said but its worth checking out. It would kinda stink if it read:

Login in as Jmaxwell Pasword is Electro

and we all blew it off lol

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Anonymous said...

I was the overzealous geek who found the code and brought it up in the chat room. My vain attempt to contribute to the collective....

Anonymous said...

Someone else mentioned maybe stego again. There's a program called MP3Stego that's a command line tool. Google it and you'll get the link for it. So I just tried it a few minutes ago, ran the decode sequence, when prompted for a passcode I pressed enter twice for a null password. It started decoding. It spit out a text document which appears to be Chinese or some other Asian character. It must just be garbage...or it might be something valuable. Here's what mine spit out.

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Gavin Jones KY said...

Forensicoo7, that is Korean I believe. I tried to translate the first line through Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. Korean was the only one that fully translated.

Rutger Augustus Munz said...

Have you tried to transalte it with google translator?
I've done it in chinese and korean, and get different interesting captions...

Rutger Augustus Munz said...

I post what I got (chinese):

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maria_bisbalera said...

I´ve tried several on'line translators with different languages, and no one translate all the text, but some words in it. So, here it is:

from arabic (yeah, I saw some arabic letters and really there are some arabic words too, not only asian languages)
then elsewhere neighborhood fat fever Conference of Group huge file examined

from chinese - the same that rutger have posted

from japanese
passage umbrella sacral floor meet sent packing ̀ spine fold planting to scarlet bell undecillion look at the state ash monkey lacquer Corporation soot vesicle former cumulative fishing bitter back

and from korean (i used two translators and the results are very different
see people Mack
Association Island
it released, person pulses pot rims truths we To cups islands abusive languages pat rights

I don't know, but for me it doesn't make any sense, just so many words...

ANy ideas?

Faisal said...

guys, the password is secured, actually there is no pass, if u try to encode a file, it says that the pass is “secured”, just write it, u'll not see what u are writing, but write it then confirm it, and u'll get nothing, i wonder if there actually anything encoded there, and the text file maybe just a rubbish for the wrong pass you've been entering,
Though… the pcm file sounds interesting, sounds like Morse to me, and there are seconds where it sounds like whispering too, I guess u’ll need I sound editor program, coz it opened it with “Cool Edit Pro 2.0”

Anyway, the interview and the new logo must have something with the user & pass, if there is a user & pass, I would doubt that they would risk someone actually finds them before it’s time to..

Anonymous said...

I opend this mp3 with hexeditor and only what I get is this:
And I think it's nothing important.

graszafa said...

I've been trying to put it "bs!@)¶WÛ8Û" in different types, in someone there appear symbol of loudspeaker and inverted 3.

I've been trying to make wave form mp3, and play it form end to begining (because od inversion 3 )... but I don't know... my english is weak... I've propably heard word: missy any misty....

maybe nothing... I'm not sure

Unknown said...

Has anyone tried listening to the radio station for clues???